[HQ Ignorance] Re : Re : Re : Scene 62: Marianne and Aalmon

[Loran]

Me english ? 
I'm just away at the wrong time and not for very long (two days, because of hard time at my job).


Before some misunderstanding develops, let me explain my position :

- When I asked for the introduction of someone like Marianne I was planning some Knight and Maiden courteous romance and it finishes with Azhur being a cuckold. Quite sordid and unpleasant position but life is a bitch and RPG never was the Santa-Claus wish list. Ok nothing to says on that, I swallow it.

- This dreamt story is parasited and spoiled by Nic's anti-group change of behavior, something announced a long time ago, preprared since the construction of his character, that Nic appeared eager to activate all along the game. As I already explained, not my favorite style of game (to me the GM build the opposition, the players cooperate), but we are a group of people and I have to accept differences. I will NOT veto this and accept difficulties and other players styles (if not, I'd better have to write novels all by myself). But If my gamer plans can be countered in some way, the same possibilities should also be open for Nic.

- It seems to me that the success of Nic happens because some rules are visibly discarded or forgotten. That where I have to raise a hand, simply because I feel it is an unfair treatment among players. If Aalmon makes Azhur a cuckhold while the rules of the game are respected. Fine, unpleasant but fine in game terms, the story will develop on this facts and I will adapt myself to this (How is my problem), but if Marianne (somewhere very close to Azhur's story, who would deny it?) is rapped by magic without respecting the rules setting then we fall into arbitrary.


Sorry Nic, you can't tell me that the rules can be discarded there. 
Rules exist especially for this case : when points of view diverge and a difficult question has to be solve equitably (if everybody agrees, we don't need rules).

I'm not saying that we have to use this blessing or an other. I'm just reminding that Glorantha is a little bit complex than what we tend to wish for our PC. If it applies to Azhur (his bride can be raped by a trusted friend), it also applies to Aalmon (his target isn't a barbarian, has her own goals and will and can be protected by various blessings).

You are not spoiling the game, you are making it harder for me (and I re-tell that's ok to me).
That could even finish to be fun for me on a longer term (that's why I will never not veto a logically built action) but we have to be fair with the treatment of all players. Having Aalmon acting at 3W4 against a symbolic difficulty of 14 is to me a rule breach, not fair and probably a wrong evaluation of Aalmon's power (which PC can play with 4 masteries at this moment of the game?).

Sorry to put Lev in a pure referee position, but as GM, he has to decide which conditions apply (here if a blessing was on or not, for example), check the rules, set the dices and put whatever GM's own magic he feel to be cool. Any result will be accepted by me after that.

And even if Lev decides that he won't redo the scene, that's "GM's own magic", I will accept it.
I have to admit that I will not find it "cool", but the full game went great and I will swallow it to keep it great.

No harm done on my side for the moment.
Loran

----- Message d'origine ----
De : Sam Elliot <samlelliot at gmail.com>
À : HeroQuest Glorantha <ignorance at mimesisrpg.com>
Envoyé le : Vendredi, 25 Avril 2008, 23h05mn 03s
Objet : Re: [HQ Ignorance] Re : Re : Scene 62: Marianne and Aalmon

I think it is worth seconding what Nic says here. If this isn't going
to be fun for you Loran, you obviously should have the veto. I got the
impression Nic was indeed allowing you room to object. But maybe you
were being too English and didn't speak up ;-)

Sam.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Nic Hughes <nicolas.h at virgin.net> wrote:
> Loran,
>
> I don't think a debate over the rule mechanics is going to get us very
> far[1].
>
> If you feel that strongly then I have no objection to unwinding the
> whole scene and making it so that it never happened. I thought I had
> given plenty of fore-warning of what direction I was taking the game but
> I'm not going to spoil the game for anyone.
>
> To an extent I have been meta-gaming because I rather wanted to see if
> having a love-triangle in the game would be fun. Love triangles have
> endless story possibilities and I really just wanted to make a whole lot
> of story hooks and see who picked up on them.
>
> [1] As it happens I think the whole "resist with an ability" applies to
> heroes rather than NPCs etc.
>
> As for blessings I think that Resist Lust and Resist Heathen Spirit are
> the two that would be specific enough, if they had happened to have been
> used in the previous week.
>
> Nic
>
>
>
>
>
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